Daily new cards J-E: At this point I’m thinking 20 new cards a day is solid. This was fine for a while but toward the end reviews got pretty nuts. Daily new cards J-J: 10 to 20. My average time spent reviewing in Quizlet was 4.85 minutes per day, 0.79 minutes per day in Anki, and 0.80 minutes per day in SuperMemo. Some of the late Beginner cards I had trouble understanding some of the grammar points, so I actually ended up finding other sources explaining those same grammar points to get a better understanding. Reply Here is a question I got recently from a student who recently started out using Anki: Hey Alec, I hope you are doing well! HTML tags allowed in your comment:
. 10 from Jalup deck, 10 from self-made cards. Adding 15 takes like 20 min unless I really struggle to get some of them. I didn’t bother with the Hard button this time. There’ll be 25 new cards, but still reviews from the previous days. J-J It takes 30 min to an hour to review 60-100 cards a day. All that said, I just got back from a 2-week vacation during which I added zero new cards per day… so I might go a little crazy this week to make up for it! Pretty much only do this when you’re learning the card, or it’s something on the tip of your tongue (brain?) Repeat this process for each problem card every day and they will eventually stick, usually a lot sooner than you would think. Rote repetition just doesn’t work for me if I am not fully engaged, and I find it very difficult to get mentally involved in the kind of study that Anki requires. At a minimum, if you have a ton of cards due, don’t add any new cards that day. Are the step between Beginner and Intermediate really that steep? Incredibly. Your email address will not be published. The key message I am taking away here is that everyone does way more cards than me. Thanks for your comment! Anki can be pleasurable. My numbers aren’t quite as high as many of yours, but I’ll post them anyway :). When you let the reviews due number get too high, you leave yourself in the hands of pure evil with an uncertain fate. It took me a long time to find the right pace!! Make it a top priority. What I mean by this is I repeatedly hit the “show answer” button and right after clicked the “hard” score until I reached zero as fast as I could. Anki literally started to become a significant percentage of my life stress. Anyway, my question was what do you suggest for the maximum reviews/day in anki or should there be no limit? The grammar decks are taking up most of the reviews because I have been able to whiz through them in the past. About 3 weeks ago, I was totally disappointed with my current Japanese comprehension level. Please enable JavaScript on your browser to best view this site. I don’t think this post could’ve come at a better time! I have two separate decks for Grammar. And talking to Japanese people of course. Good luck everybody! Were you plowing through Japanese every day, your path crystal clear, but somehow your Anki deck started to get left behind. My reviews per day have stayed at around 120-160 per day, which takes me about 50-60 minutes to review. You might notice that, in our example, we said 10 new cards per day would require 10 minutes of daily review. Decrease new cards. This means I can be flexible with my time and give myself days off from card creation, or even increase my daily new cards if I feel like it. Lay the Foundations First. And honestly, I have no idea how you guys manage to do anymore than that, with the reviews hammering down on you. I always create more cards than I need and always have a backlog of sentences for cards I want to make, too. Founder of Jalup. The vast majority of the cards I actually know, and when I had made the decision that “I will super click “Difficult” for every card at lightning speed,” my brain was more focused, alert, and I was actually able to run through cards at 10x the speed or more, because my brain wasn’t spending more than half the time analyzing which button to click, and then moving the mouse. There’s also the matter of how you approach cards. Jalup Beginner: 12 Cards/day You already know about the inevitable encounter with the Anki avalanche. It is a great feeling to see your review number go down to 0 for the day and get a congratulations screen. J-E: 0 (again, I graduated J-E a while ago, but I think I did about 20 a day back then) I was at that point once already , 500 Kanji in my RTK deck and I somehow managed to do them all on one evening, now I’m here again haha. But I'll start again once done with first aid review in 8 weeks. For the Reviews tab, you want to use unlimited reviews per day because you don’t want to delay their due dates. I have to review anywhere between 200 and 300 cards a day. Do not expect to be able recall, or produce, or master the card in one go. You accomplished your Anki training for the day. There’s no right and wrong here, just do what suits you without completely neglecting the other. 6 answers to question "the 20 new cards a day that's the default on anki mobile seems a bit low - how many are you all doing?" RTK: When I was first going through RTK, I was moving at a pretty good pace as far as I remember, mostly adding 20~30 cards. Review cards per day: Totally up to your preferences. This tip is based on the Pareto Principle, also known as the 80/20 rule, … Now, I’m beginning to add more to solidify some new kanji. Not too fast, not too slow. 5 Kanji, 5 sentences. But as the days accumulate, you reach that magical number. Skipped them yesterday. What’s the difference if you start your diet now, or in a week when you gained a few more pounds. If reviews get too high though, I’ll go a day or two of adding no cards (or just fewer cards). How difficult can that be? I think I’m going to try what Robert did just so there isn’t such a large number there making me feel like poop about the whole thing. If it’s not fun, it’s not good” methodology. I’ve been doing a consistent 14-16 new cards a day for the last few years. Daily new cards J-E: 0 If you’re adding 5 new cards or 50 new cards, just keep moving forward. You get a sense of progress learning that many new cards per day that you might not have as much of if you went at a slower pace. How do you find your Japanese level? I was reaaaaaly slow at the beginner phase (I started learning Japanese a month before finals) Daily new cards J-J: 50. Anki has completely changed the way I approach studying for medicine. If I do reviews every day, I have about 70-100 reviews, which take about 15 minutes. Finally I reach a vague understanding, with some niggling grammar points still unresolved. It is not very fast but it is progress that doesn’t end up making me quit which is what matters. After I add you deck to my list, I will be studying 75 cards a day and will likely have to review 250 to 350 cards a day. 50-55 cards at present (omg, it has been a month since I am adding 50-55.). I also like to think of the Anki threshold number like those trying to go on a diet. Sometimes it is more because I keep failing at keeping the count while learning. It certainly shortened my time for immersion though, which I started to realize more and more that my time would likely be better spent there (somewhere 5000+ cards into my studies at that point). J-J: 0. Then moved to 30 for 2 weeks. In the end for each J-E card you only have the one English word and then has to piece together the rest of the meaning from previous understanding. It’s funny and a relief to find out others have had success with the same idea, caused by the same stress from huge review counts. I would say that I am nowhere near fluent. Everyone’s situation is different, so don’t be too rough on yourself. Without reading first aid I was doing 1000 per day in up to six hours. So what happens next? Quit Anki for good No solid number to note there. RTK: 0, but back when i was adding new cards it ranged from 20-35. No point hammering the same word or grammar piece day after day. I basically just maintained with no new cards for almost a year. Anki's default setting introduces 20 new cards per day. My reviews per day have stayed at around 120-160 per day, which takes me about 50-60 minutes to review. Software Engineer. This should get your reviews down a lot in both time and numbers, use this extra time for immersion, not patting yourself on the back. Missed days will not cause the cards to pile up. That's my plan for last 12 weeks of dedicated. Memory works every single day, which means seldomly used information are DELETED every single day. I’ve done it a few times and it feels very liberating and motivating. As soon as i finish Jalup Beginner in June with this setting, I’m planning on setting my Jalup Intermediate Card input to 5 Cards/day, as I’m completly overrun with the reviews, though I manage to go trough all of them for the day, even if I just finish at 10pm. (almost). 1. I used the other hrs to do uworld. What I’m getting at is, you’re better off setting the amount of time you want to study, rather than worrying about anki and immersion volume ratios. Figure out through experience what number pushes you over the edge. You can also break up your reviews into several short sessions. Conceptually, it’s easy to adjust the new cards per day setting for an options group to make this … Japanese Level: 25-ish? I usually add about 100-150 cards per day for a few days then take a break and dont add for a few days. One thing to help get your review times down, especially after the first 1000. The following two tabs change content below. When You Are Most Likely To Quit Learning Japanese, Achieving Your Japanese Goals – November 2020, How a Jalup Deck is Made – Behind the Scenes, Super Simple Guide To Using Anki Immediately, https://japaneselevelup.com/what-level-are-you/. Once you reach your threshold number, all the positive addicting features of Anki jump out the window. Short answer: About add 25 new cards a day, for an average pace, if you’re studying flashcards for 30-60 minutes a day. You will do this, but you can mentally push it off and are justifying yourself for doing this. it seems dumb to me. Just do a few minutes of study, then more minutes of rest, and repeat. I have only just finished Jalup Beginner and is a little confused as to why J-J is so much more difficult for you. So yeah, overall study time is the focus, the rest is balancing immersion and Anki. This way my reviews would go down to around 15-20 and I’d be able to get back into the grove easily after. With this pace I am able to understand and remember the words pretty easily, but also have time to really learn how to understand and speak, and toENJOY the language rather than just memorizing words. If you’re still in beginning/intermediate phases of your learning, the super click seems to make even more sense as I can imagine the stress being even greater, and the vicious cycle of large reviews more powerful. Though, I certainly had a good number of days where I didn’t add any. Also, are you a glass half full or half empty kind of person? Especially since, once I’m done adding cards, I’ll just have reviews to do for eternity hahah. You get so much from reading online and listening to news and dramas. Though, I definitely do not see myself giving up anki anytime soon. 継続は力なり. Daily RTK: 0, I went through the RTK challenge adding around 20 per day but have not added any since. I’ve started a A-A deck to help improve my reading arabic because I barely do much of it and the written language is completely different than spoken language. Having done about 50% of them without even looking, simply super clicking through them, I started to “semi-“super click and at least look at the card in that split second, and only stop if I have no idea whatsoever… kinda fun actually. For Portuguese, that's still more than 500 per day. The core of Anki revolves around 2 elements: learning new cards and reviewing old cards. I think the best way to handle it is to pace oneself, just like in any race. There was a period where I was adding as high as 40-50 cards a day, and a period as low as 20 cards a week. On a day like this, do the 50 reviews which will take no more than 15 minutes and then just complete new cards until you are caught up. Which you know would be a huge challenge to knock off. After a few weeks, if you have too few/many reviews, adjust the amount of new cards until you have a manageable number of reviews every day. In the past 15 days, I’ve added 500 cards. Still, adding close to 20 new cards per day definitely pushes my limits because the number of daily reviews really begins to pile up after a bit. There are several ways to deal with this. I personally don’t care about my stats on Anki, so when I kept skipping my reviews and reached 500 reviews I found a simple solution to get that number down is what I call the super click. Then I manage to dredge up some fragments from my memory. It’s really valuable to spend time applying what you’re learning, and it can help you get a handle on difficult concepts. I also don’t always have enough self-made cards to add 10 new ones every day. RTK:0 – Back at the time when I added cards was about 15-25 cards a day. 10 for 1 week. You should see a list of your decks. Well you have +50~200 extra reviews adding up. Even at a mere 10-cards a day you can hit a very high level in just a few years. Eventually things will balance themselves out, just do it the way that suits you most. Delete your Anki deck, and restart from scratch. I’ve just started with Jalup NEXT. This is different for everybody, depending on how long you’ve been using Anki and how many cards are in your deck. I am trying to reduce my new cards to ~33 though (I have taken the VN challenge at hardcore, so it’s a bit tough atm). Don’t let the problem develop in the first place. I’m keeping my number or reps stable while adding cards, which seems like the right way to do it, but I do have a growing fear of cards silently waiting to bury me. :). I just found myself slogging through, not seeming to make significant gains, and I didn’t like the pacing of the reviews. Just skimmed the cards in 3 hours. I study that amount, plus any old cards that are scheduled to appear. This is why you can review hundreds of cards in a day, but can only learn dozens. (That's actually only 10 new words per day, if you do both English-to-Chinese and Chinese-to-English.) I still do use Anki as a tool for recording cool Japanese phrases/sayings/etc, but I don’t use it for memorization anymore. 5 new cards a day. That’s nice and would be ideal. They can also be some of the hardest because so many of us have been traumatized by having to learn flashcards in school. Kanji Kingdom: 8 Cards/day It's pretty manageable to handle that at first, but after a couple of weeks I really start feeling the pressure. You start to recall the “Studying should be fun. When you start to gain unwanted weight (Anki reviews increasing), it is still within reasonable grasp to fix the problem. You won’t get your reward, because you probably won’t reach it in one or two days. I’d do a few hundred and it would take a couple hours, and the next morning I’d wake up with hundreds more than the number I had when I went to sleep! Vocabulary study with an SRS: identify 10 new words per day. I wouldn’t stress it too much. I do not have to make any branches 95% of the time. immersion is way more important IMHO. 4. I’m impressed you dedicate so much time to your Japanese studies, well done guys! RTK: 0 10 months ago M1 here. But the other part of the equation is how many new cards to add a day. Review a little at a time. I think attitude goes a long way as well. Anki works to combat this effect; that’s pretty much all the reason why. Go easier on the ‘marking’, think of it more as review times. I have already completed RTK, so I’m only doing J-J cards now from Jalup Expert. But well, I’m adding very few cards compared to many others. Sometimes you do well, sometimes you don’t. My Level is currently somewhere around 12, i guess. Daily new cards RTK: 25. The good news is that I have mastered branching i.e. How many new cards should I study a day to learn a language? New J-J Cards: ~10-15/day. My advice to anyone having trouble is to just find your own rhythm (as many here have already said). Be lucky you didn’t live in the original Anki era where you didn’t have the choice to set your daily reviews. All you have to do is do your reviews. You are still fully engaging in Japanese every day and in every way, but Anki is no longer your most powerful tool, but your most powerful chore. How many reviews do you have per day and how long does it take? Remember, adding 25 means you’ll probably study 50-100. Because it needs to be used daily, Anki can actually be a great way to build a study habit for USMLE Step 1. Please enable JavaScript on your browser to best view this site. It takes me about three hours on the clock to get through it all (Anki recorded time is usually about half that). Current level is 2 ;P I’m doing about 9 per day each of Kanji Kingdom and Jalup Beginner. If so, yes it teaches you grammar. Compared to everyone else this sounds like I’m going pretty slow, but the reviews just got too out of hand when I tried to go beyond, and I got stuck with many cards that I … You should be able to push it off a bit. I dont do kanji cards. I feel like the numbers everyone works with can be great for seeing how everyone handles it. ‘Total’: the number of hours you spent on Anki in the last month. Software Engineer. 50 cards a day from 8000 card point is 3 hours, maybe a bit more depending on how much I add and i if have to branch. If we all have to complete 10,000 hours, 10,000 cards (just for a tangible example). During Jalup Intermediate I only did 10 new cards per day, because the load was too high, but I returned to 20 per day around 1900 cards (100 before end of Jalup Intermediate). Daily new cards J-J: 10, Already completed around 2500 J-E + J-J Cards and almost finished Jalup advanced, But at the moment I’m currently on a RTK boost- but usually it’s 10 J-J cards a day. Kind of contradictory of me to say, since I spend so much time with the SRS. 30 from one deck, 20 from JALUP expert. Early on in J-J it could take me up to 2 hours to review and 40 min to add 12 cards, so it definitely gets easier. So far I didn’t experience any drawbacks. As expected, I did do more Anki reviews … Change the new cards per day limit to 120. How to use Anki for Step 1 … Personally I think that while you’ll progress faster by adding more cards/day, it shouldn’t be done to the point that you exclude active immersion time. You may already be fully aware of the issue, but sometimes it can be good to see it written out. In any case, I prefer to stick to the 10-20 range for new cards per day. You Want To Become Fluent In Japanese? Even if you aren’t feeling like it, at least do some. I add maybe around 20 new cards a month. Daily new cards RTK: 0 Like a freakin monster! RTK: 0 (completed a few years ago, but I did 60 a day as I remember) So like 1000/day? New RTK Cards: ~3-5/week J-J: 5 a day now, 20-30 at my peak, and various numbers in between. Does this sound familiar? Try and not worry too much about the rest, but a little bit of pruning of techniques and methods doesn’t hurt from time to time. You could try this post: https://japaneselevelup.com/what-level-are-you/. Why burn out? It’s so easy with JALUP Next, so I’m tempted to do more, but I don’t want an insane amount of reviews the next day that it may start to feel overwhelming. Japanese level: 60+? I don’t know how you guys add so many cards. Still hell. But if you find that you can stay on top of all your Anki reviews a day, then you can increase it to 20 new cards a day. Your email address will not be published. This results in a pretty slow pace of new additions beyond the original 1900-ish. Oh, and I also deleted the premade “8500-Something Japanese Sentences” deck because I just really did NOT want to deal with it, I didn’t have much commitment in it in the first place (only about 300 cards in), and I’m planning on doing Korean this fall anyway… Also found out how to correctly merge decks (got the three fragments of “Tofugu Ultimate Nouns” into one, further bringing my deck-count down to 7), and discovered that I actually have to manually enable syncing for individual decks, and all this time it had not been statesaving to the server :O. However, I think that long term this balances out either way you swing it, as long as you eventually make that time up. I’m at 3000 cards, learning 60 new cards a day. But now, your desire to lose it, while still strong, causes you to want to push it off. Passively immerse with previous content: convert the active content into audio that you can listen to while cooking, cleaning, or walking. What Settings Should I Use for My Anki Reviews? The limit applies to the current deck and subdecks. Better off spacing it out while other pieces of branches and immersion help it settle. JAVASCRIPT IS DISABLED. Daily new cards J-J:30-60, Level: ~49 I came to the same conclusion of “screw it, I’m gonna just click the s*** out of “Difficult” right before I found this site. Maximum reimbursements per month: Spotify: USD 12. J-J (Advanced) ~10 (12 most of the time, up to 25 at weekends or holidays, 0 if I am exhausted). A good starting point is around 7 cards for every hour per day that you are prepared to study. 100 news per day will be ~400-500 reviews each day. New cards/day tells Anki how many new cards you’d like introduced on each day you open the program. I don’t think I’d add 25 new per day unless my deck had a clear end point like RTK does. All that work has led to this graph: This is the current status of my Anki deck. I had been doing 100 or so reviews every now and again, but adding 25 new cards everyday eventually overwhelms the 100 I did a week ago… Japanese Level: Anki won't show you a card until it is "due" or if it is new. And since it’s the summer, I have all the time in the world! I totally didn’t notice that! Really gotta keep trying to do the reviews daily now (this is my fourth hiatus this year), as well as WaniKani (a sweet kanji+vocab site from Tofugu, which just went into closed beta today). I’m interesting in getting to know how much time is put into adding 30+ new cards a day as well. I’m adding new ones now, since I’m pretty motivated. picking up to ~10 a day for the second half, Now: Slow and steady wins the race. For people at a certain level and with the right learning method predisposition, I think you’re right…stay on top of it or suck it up and get back in shape. For your questions I have 25-50 RTK reviews a day and 10-30 J-E reviews. Anki can be pleasurable. With more experience, as your reading and comprehension speeds increase, both new cards and reviews take up less time. Forgot one thing. Don’t forget, every second you spend on Anki is a sacrifice on immersion. If it doesnt: flip the card, read the furigana a few times, read the top sentence (the front) a couple of times without the furigana focusing on the problem words kanji(RTK super helps with this), then mark it wrong. Look at the unknown word. I think there’s value in looking at how others do things and trying to pick up on their tricks to improve efficiency. Personally I tried Anki once, used it for a couple weeks, and haven’t gone back. I set a 2 minute timer on my iPhone and just do Anki for that amount of time, many times per day. This leads to further slow and painful recall of other elements. First review of that card. Another reason not to skip is you end up with a mountain of cards the next day. I currently don't use a maximum review limit and learn 30 new cards a day (although not every day I have made enough new cards to learn 30). Give it like 10 sec to pop into your head. Or unless I was doing another Jalup challenge :D. Daily new cards J-E: 0 now… or really, I still sporadically add J-E cards that I’m “migrating” from single-word cards into real sentence cards, but that’s kind of beside the point here. It’s still going to be the same hell to drop 50 pounds or 52 pounds. You missed a day? Daily J-E: 5, I do most of my anki time while commuting 2×40 minutes a day, and this pace works for me. ‘If you studied every day’ is a little self-explanatory, and for me (and for many, I hope) it acts as a sign that you’re kind of lazy. Over the next week, the reviews due rise to 1000, 1500, or more. J-E: 20. Daily new cards J-J: (Fill in which parts are relevant to you). Mathematically, it will depend on the percentage of cards you get right. As long as we are attempting both at the same time, it doesn’t matter which goal we reach first. Daily new cards RTK: 0. The most important thing is to make sure you understand each concept on a deeper level than before and not just focus on the number. Rule of thumb: 1 for 1. Suffer through the hell of getting your reviews down to 0. Yup, now you’ll have to review your overdue cards PLUS your due cards — that’s a hell … Bottom line: If reviews are piling up exponentially, super click of “Difficult” is HIGHLY recommended as a good reset and stress reliever that doesn’t compromise learning and on the contrary actually improves it. I am 600 cards into intermediate. I think each person needs to find his own path with Anki. Others several minutes. I plan on keeping the pace, maybe doing a little more this weekend to really get a hang of how the J-J cards should be done. And If this site can rekindle your motivation, the hours are worth it! I’ll probably finish the remaining 3k in the next couple days, simply to space it out. After years of intensive study I’m now pretty much fluent in Chinese, and I had literally thousands and thousands of cards piling up, including a significant number of totally new cards from books or wherever. The first few hundred will make the biggest difference in the shortest time, but even going forward from there your speed and confidence will continue to improve. Stopped for now to read first aid again. Short Answer: Set new cards to 40 max until … Then, after I hit 0, I can be more discerning with which button I press, having killed the review behemoth. I find it usually takes a couple of days before the kanji starts to stick. By the time you’ve done 2000-3000 J-J cards, you’ll wonder why it was ever difficult for you. Achieving Your Japanese Goals – November 2020, Catching up on Anki Reviews Slowly or All at Once, Your Anki Reviews will Decrease Over Time. 2. I’ve been through all kinds of numbers over the years. Level: ~20 I find them so hard. Then: Take the full sentence of the word and make a flashcard in a spaced repetition system (Anki is the SRS of choice). Super click is super cool! Once you reach this threshold number, you are in for some big trouble. For me, when I hit a 10000 words I’m going to spend very little time with anki and the vast majority with immersion. Not sure what you mean by J-E. Do you mean Jalup Beginner? If you go on a diet now, start exercising and working out, you can recover from a reasonable level of temporary weight gain. You accomplished your Anki training for the day. Level around 25 And does J-E teach grammar or should I learn from Tae Kim’s website? Daily new cards J-J: Started at 40 for 3 months. I would say the readings are the least important part of this process because Anki will eventually iron that out. Anki shows up to 50 new cards per day. Skipped them the day before that. Anki separates the two sides of my cards into separate notes, so this chart shows that I now … Now though, I’m back up to around 10, which I don’t really plan on going past too much. That said I do immerse a lot, though my ratio is probably less than ideal.
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